I am now in the market for an upgrade from the AI4 and am trying to decide between Logic and Cubase full version. The cost for the Logic will be considerable because I don’t have a Mac. That being said I will spend the money if Logic is the way to go. Reading thru peoples responses it seems that it may be.

My question, does anyone know a site to compare “stats” between the 2 programs?

Also, besides plug-ins….what other features does Logic excel on?

Hopefully someone can help me out.

It not just with Logic, but with any software any one begins with, they get used to it. All the shortcuts, the tricks and techniques. However, if someone wants to use Cubase they can, we aint stopping them. But no one can stop me from using Logic.

I used to think twice about going back to Cubase. Why? because I thought that the interface, the graphics look more real to Analogue or Hardware equipment in a studio. Such as mixers and rack modules etc. Though there are many software that have these advanced graphics. They may help by giving you a fresh newer and cleaner look, but is the quality the same? One person mentioned above about some functions in Cubase such as Warp Grid, Audio Quantization and Macros etc. Well, using Logic myself, I began discovering things. I am ok with editing MIDI, the built in synths and virtual instruments are amazing, not only they have presets, but you can re-model them to your liking or even start from scratch.

You can edit MIDI using Hyper-Draw, Its also useful if you want to have a particulat MIDI part fading in and out or variating in volume, pitch, modulation and other changes.

Finding the tempo is not a problem in Logic. Use your brain. I was a DJ in my early years. I still do to promote my music. Having that skill of changing the tempo on the fly while a loop is in cycle mode, i can find the exact tempo until it sounds smooth. other than that, there are ways that Logic allows you to find the tempo. I also have a third party plug-in that allows me to sense a loops tempo. After setting that tempo, if it is slightly of quant, then you can adjust it by using the re-groove function by doubling clicking the audio region and using the drop down menus there. There are many things you can do. It not what the software can do, its about what you can do with the software.

As for the Macros, again not a problem. When you double click a MIDI part, it shows the Piano Roll with the timeline/bars with a grid (Im sure you all know what I mean). There you have your notes inputted. If you want to move one note, say for e.g. the C to a C#, all you do is click the wrong note you have inputted on the left (on the Piano Keys), it then selects the whole line of notes, then you click + Hold and Click + Drag to the desired note, C# in this case. Other way is to press and hold the shift key and click individual notes that need to be transposed, then release the shift key, and click and drag the notes to desired note. It is much easier than opening up a box that you try and program to make changes. Its more hands on and you know exactly what you are doing with your notes. The rest is dependant on your ear, if you know how the notes should sound.

Anyway, theres so much we could discuss. I dont have much time, and im sure others do not want to waste time. Please use what you want, but I personally think Logic is the way forward.

I produce backing tracks for companies (theatre sort of songs) and i have various kontakt plugins and i use lots of exs24 and it’s just brilliant. The things you can do on logic are so much better than Cubase, i could go on forever saying how much better logic is, i have cubase on my PC and its aboustley terrible compared to what i can do on logic pro 8, Protools is better than cubase anythings better than cubase, garageband is better!! i would buy a mac just for garageband if i had the money (thats how i started off) i bought an EMAC just for garageband from ebay.

And the fact you can sample your own sounds in logic and just do anything you want!! it’s not stopped me from doing anything i want so far,
just little things for e.g like
i was making a song the other day which i had a sample of a cymbal crash (this is audio now) and i wanted to have this cymbal crash every so often, so i just copied it (apple C) and then while the song was playing!! i pasted it at the right time (Apple V) at the right timing in the song, and did that for every beat and it kept up with me and actually let me do it,
if i attempted anything like that in cubase it would crash or not let me do it!!
so much things logic does are so much better, and i think logic and protools ARE the best to work with.

:)

I was a LONG time Logic user. I switched to Cubase not because I wasn’t happy with Logic, but because I wasn’t willing to spend a few grand on a new computer just to keep running Logic. I have never looked back.

Truth be told, when I switched to Cubase many years ago…I felt like I was giving up some functionality. I was using Cakewalk before Logic…and Logic just felt like “grown man” software.

I think Cubase has come of age as of version 4.

Still…I wrote some great songs with Logic back in the day….shedding a tear now.

:)

By the way, the entire site has moved to http://earpick.cubicfruit.com – this blog hasn’t been updated with new articles for a while now.

i not a great fan of mac softwares.
i love logic for the plugins though..
but if you have a good set of plugins.. i don’t think one will look at using logic as a daw as
it does not have the powerful features that cubase offers..
a few drawbacks on logic i felt were.
1]a mono view of a stereo waveform
2]no lane editing in midi veiw[acc to your article]
3]no offline processing

these are very important editing and processing functions which i need on daily basis.. maybe it is a part of my workflow and you may bave a workabout in logic..but then these features lack.
apart from that.. can you tell me what are the equivalents of ..
the
1]logical editor of cubase ?
2]macro function
3]unattended midi to audio rendering[with a third party app by phil pendlebury]
4]warp grid
5]audio quantize and taking quantize from an audio clip

p.s -as far as the workspaces are concerned they are mapped on alt+1,2,3..
i think they work fine .. maybe a stolen concept from logic but it works well here..